Bought Q4 donor car
Bought Q4 donor car
Picked up a Q4 spare parts car in Germany this weekend. It has no engine, transmission or interior. It has most likely done less than 80.000km and the body looks to be in great condition. Apparently the engine failed, then failed again after repair some 10 years ago, so it has become a donor car. Still has the 4WD parts, apart from the viscomatic ECU.
1994 Alfa Romeo 164 Q4 Proteo Rosso
1989 Lancia Thema 8.32 Verde Indy
2001 Alfa Romeo Spider 3.0 24V Blue Lightning
2011 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Multiair TCT Bianco Pastello
2015 Alfa Romeo 4C Rosso Competizione
1980 Alfa Romeo Alfetta Blindata Bianco
1989 Lancia Thema 8.32 Verde Indy
2001 Alfa Romeo Spider 3.0 24V Blue Lightning
2011 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Multiair TCT Bianco Pastello
2015 Alfa Romeo 4C Rosso Competizione
1980 Alfa Romeo Alfetta Blindata Bianco
Re: Bought Q4 donor car
Great find; will probably be a good match for your needs (having driven so much with yours)?
Re: Bought Q4 donor car
Well done, there should be some useful spares there.
Is that the car that was advertised on the German eBay classifieds? I seem to remember seeing a black engine-less Q4 on there a few weeks ago. There's always some interesting Alfa spares for sale on that site.
I see a Zender spoiler too (unless I'm mistaken) - a rather rare item!
Is that the car that was advertised on the German eBay classifieds? I seem to remember seeing a black engine-less Q4 on there a few weeks ago. There's always some interesting Alfa spares for sale on that site.
I see a Zender spoiler too (unless I'm mistaken) - a rather rare item!
1999 Alfa GTV 3.0 V6 24V
1992 Maserati 222 4V (project)
(Ex)1994 Alfa 164 Q4 3.5 Savali Cosworth
(Ex) 1991 Alfa 164 3.0 Cloverleaf
(Ex) 1995 Alfa 145 1.6 8V
1992 Maserati 222 4V (project)
(Ex)1994 Alfa 164 Q4 3.5 Savali Cosworth
(Ex) 1991 Alfa 164 3.0 Cloverleaf
(Ex) 1995 Alfa 145 1.6 8V
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Yes, it was on that site about 4 weeks ago. It actually has a lot of useful parts.
It might be a Zender spoiler, I am not sure. I don't need that, so if no one else in the garage is interested in it, I will put it on this site.
It might be a Zender spoiler, I am not sure. I don't need that, so if no one else in the garage is interested in it, I will put it on this site.
1994 Alfa Romeo 164 Q4 Proteo Rosso
1989 Lancia Thema 8.32 Verde Indy
2001 Alfa Romeo Spider 3.0 24V Blue Lightning
2011 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Multiair TCT Bianco Pastello
2015 Alfa Romeo 4C Rosso Competizione
1980 Alfa Romeo Alfetta Blindata Bianco
1989 Lancia Thema 8.32 Verde Indy
2001 Alfa Romeo Spider 3.0 24V Blue Lightning
2011 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Multiair TCT Bianco Pastello
2015 Alfa Romeo 4C Rosso Competizione
1980 Alfa Romeo Alfetta Blindata Bianco
Re: Bought Q4 donor car
Well it can never hurt to have a spare parts car, particularly as these cars get older.
As for the spoiler, it certainly looks the same shape as the Zender ones which curve downwards at each side. If it is a Zender item it should have the word 'Zender' imprinted on the top of the spoiler (facing toward the sky) on the right hand side (I think). With it being black, it might take a keen eye to spot it. If you can't find a home for it, I may be willing to take it off your hands...
As for the spoiler, it certainly looks the same shape as the Zender ones which curve downwards at each side. If it is a Zender item it should have the word 'Zender' imprinted on the top of the spoiler (facing toward the sky) on the right hand side (I think). With it being black, it might take a keen eye to spot it. If you can't find a home for it, I may be willing to take it off your hands...

1999 Alfa GTV 3.0 V6 24V
1992 Maserati 222 4V (project)
(Ex)1994 Alfa 164 Q4 3.5 Savali Cosworth
(Ex) 1991 Alfa 164 3.0 Cloverleaf
(Ex) 1995 Alfa 145 1.6 8V
1992 Maserati 222 4V (project)
(Ex)1994 Alfa 164 Q4 3.5 Savali Cosworth
(Ex) 1991 Alfa 164 3.0 Cloverleaf
(Ex) 1995 Alfa 145 1.6 8V
Re: Bought Q4 donor car
If only space would allow me... That's a great idea, all in all much cheaper than buying all the parts individually. Good find.
Would you have an ABS pump + module for me? I had no luck finding one for the last 6 months...
Would you have an ABS pump + module for me? I had no luck finding one for the last 6 months...

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As you may recall, I have also been searching for the pump and this one has it - so no extra
I just hope this one still works, the car has been at a stand still for about 10 years.
I found out that it is a Zender spoiler, it is marked on the right side of it. I cannot recall if it had an extra brake light as standard, like this one has.

I found out that it is a Zender spoiler, it is marked on the right side of it. I cannot recall if it had an extra brake light as standard, like this one has.
1994 Alfa Romeo 164 Q4 Proteo Rosso
1989 Lancia Thema 8.32 Verde Indy
2001 Alfa Romeo Spider 3.0 24V Blue Lightning
2011 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Multiair TCT Bianco Pastello
2015 Alfa Romeo 4C Rosso Competizione
1980 Alfa Romeo Alfetta Blindata Bianco
1989 Lancia Thema 8.32 Verde Indy
2001 Alfa Romeo Spider 3.0 24V Blue Lightning
2011 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Multiair TCT Bianco Pastello
2015 Alfa Romeo 4C Rosso Competizione
1980 Alfa Romeo Alfetta Blindata Bianco
Re: Bought Q4 donor car
Forgive my ignorance - are Q4 ABS pumps different to other 164 pumps?
As for the spoiler, I think Zender produced two versions; one with the brake light and one without. As I said a while back, if you have no use for it I may be willing to take it off your hands. My Q4 has a weird spoiler that is narrower than the bootlid (it looks rather odd) and I think it's from a BMW...we can't allow that now can we
As for the spoiler, I think Zender produced two versions; one with the brake light and one without. As I said a while back, if you have no use for it I may be willing to take it off your hands. My Q4 has a weird spoiler that is narrower than the bootlid (it looks rather odd) and I think it's from a BMW...we can't allow that now can we

1999 Alfa GTV 3.0 V6 24V
1992 Maserati 222 4V (project)
(Ex)1994 Alfa 164 Q4 3.5 Savali Cosworth
(Ex) 1991 Alfa 164 3.0 Cloverleaf
(Ex) 1995 Alfa 145 1.6 8V
1992 Maserati 222 4V (project)
(Ex)1994 Alfa 164 Q4 3.5 Savali Cosworth
(Ex) 1991 Alfa 164 3.0 Cloverleaf
(Ex) 1995 Alfa 145 1.6 8V
Re: Bought Q4 donor car
Yes, there is one or more threads on this around here, probably the technical forum. The ABS and 4WD interacts.HaydnW92 wrote:Forgive my ignorance - are Q4 ABS pumps different to other 164 pumps?
You are on the possible receiver list if no one in the garage is interestedHaydnW92 wrote:As for the spoiler, I think Zender produced two versions; one with the brake light and one without. As I said a while back, if you have no use for it I may be willing to take it off your hands. My Q4 has a weird spoiler that is narrower than the bootlid (it looks rather odd) and I think it's from a BMW...we can't allow that now can we

1994 Alfa Romeo 164 Q4 Proteo Rosso
1989 Lancia Thema 8.32 Verde Indy
2001 Alfa Romeo Spider 3.0 24V Blue Lightning
2011 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Multiair TCT Bianco Pastello
2015 Alfa Romeo 4C Rosso Competizione
1980 Alfa Romeo Alfetta Blindata Bianco
1989 Lancia Thema 8.32 Verde Indy
2001 Alfa Romeo Spider 3.0 24V Blue Lightning
2011 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Multiair TCT Bianco Pastello
2015 Alfa Romeo 4C Rosso Competizione
1980 Alfa Romeo Alfetta Blindata Bianco
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That makes sense. Yet another part unique to the Q4 then.
Thanks
Thanks

1999 Alfa GTV 3.0 V6 24V
1992 Maserati 222 4V (project)
(Ex)1994 Alfa 164 Q4 3.5 Savali Cosworth
(Ex) 1991 Alfa 164 3.0 Cloverleaf
(Ex) 1995 Alfa 145 1.6 8V
1992 Maserati 222 4V (project)
(Ex)1994 Alfa 164 Q4 3.5 Savali Cosworth
(Ex) 1991 Alfa 164 3.0 Cloverleaf
(Ex) 1995 Alfa 145 1.6 8V