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How many white 164 Q4 alfas were factories?

Postby augusto drigo » Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:34 am

Good morning, my friends .... I would like to know how many 164 164 were made in WHITE ????

Does anyone have any ideas?
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Re: How many white 164 Q4 alfas were factories?

Postby augusto drigo » Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:39 am

Sorry friend ..... I'm just referring to the Q4 version
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Re: How many white 164 Q4 alfas were factories?

Postby augusto drigo » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:24 am

segue as fotos da minha 164 Q4
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Re: How many white 164 Q4 alfas were factories?

Postby Alfan » Sun Jan 15, 2017 10:44 am

Well, yours is the first I have seen pictures of. So maybe it is unique :)

I don't know how to find out about numbers of different colours produced, but would be fun to know.
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Re: How many white 164 Q4 alfas were factories?

Postby augusto drigo » Mon Jan 16, 2017 1:21 pm

Interesting......

I would like to have a base of how many white ones were still manufactured ... to get an idea of how much the car is worth due to the preciousness ... even more for having only 56,000 km .... one thing I wish I did not have is The instruction manual ... the rest have everything
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Re: How many white 164 Q4 alfas were factories?

Postby alfa east » Tue Jan 17, 2017 4:16 am

Augusto, you may want to try the Alfa Romeo Historical Documentation centre:
https://www.museoalfaromeo.com/it-it/mu ... Romeo.aspx
and ask your question on how many white Q4s were delivered ex-factory.

On the issue of the Instruction Manual for the Q4: of course our own website has a wealth of information:
MANUALS section of this website
but if you want the actual booklet -and if you do not mind German language-they are sometimes sold on Ebay, e.g.:

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Re: How many white 164 Q4 alfas were factories?

Postby augusto drigo » Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:57 am

Thank you very much for the 2 information

The manual will try to buy and the email already sent to the museum.

Once I saw on the internet a manual of the alfa romeo 164 q4 beautiful looked like a book with gray cover .... wanted so much to buy and could not ..
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Re: How many white 164 Q4 alfas were factories?

Postby M164 » Sun Jan 22, 2017 3:10 pm

Hello, i know of at least 1 white V6 Cloverleaf in the UK.
I own a White Series 1 Twinspark
Which book did you see but could not buy? any picture of the book?
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Re: How many white 164 Q4 alfas were factories?

Postby augusto drigo » Tue Jan 24, 2017 2:55 pm

Good morning friend .... it's a gray book ... and not the instruction manual .... it's very beautiful by the way .... I tried to buy it once on ebay and I could not and never found it again
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Re: How many white 164 Q4 alfas were factories?

Postby M164 » Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:54 pm

augusto drigo wrote:Good morning friend .... it's a gray book ... and not the instruction manual .... it's very beautiful by the way .... I tried to buy it once on ebay and I could not and never found it again


Was it plain grey or with the car on the front? Was it a factory book or written by elsewhere?
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Re: How many white 164 Q4 alfas were factories?

Postby Alfamuppet » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:10 am

That's a stunning White Q4 Augusto!!
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Re: How many white 164 Q4 alfas were factories?

Postby augusto drigo » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:57 pm

M164 wrote:
augusto drigo wrote:Good morning friend .... it's a gray book ... and not the instruction manual .... it's very beautiful by the way .... I tried to buy it once on ebay and I could not and never found it again


Was it plain grey or with the car on the front? Was it a factory book or written by elsewhere?


Yes my friend is a gray book with the Q4 symbol only ....
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Re: How many white 164 Q4 alfas were factories?

Postby augusto drigo » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:59 pm

Alfamuppet wrote:That's a stunning White Q4 Augusto!!


Thank you my friend ... this is being my research ... send the email to the museum and so far I am in the process of checking ....

On the white colors there are several models in this color ... but on the Q4 model ... I only found mine so far
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Re: How many white 164 Q4 alfas were factories?

Postby M164 » Thu Jan 26, 2017 12:15 am

augusto drigo wrote:
M164 wrote:
augusto drigo wrote:Good morning friend .... it's a gray book ... and not the instruction manual .... it's very beautiful by the way .... I tried to buy it once on ebay and I could not and never found it again


Was it plain grey or with the car on the front? Was it a factory book or written by elsewhere?


Yes my friend is a gray book with the Q4 symbol only ....


If you can upload an image of the book I'll keep my eyes open for it for you
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Re: How many white 164 Q4 alfas were factories?

Postby M164 » Thu Jan 26, 2017 10:02 am

I make apology. It is a White Cloverleaf I know of in the U.K., not a Q4
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Re: How many white 164 Q4 alfas were factories?

Postby augusto drigo » Tue Jan 31, 2017 1:15 pm

good morning my friend

no problem....

I'm looking for an e-mail to the museum and so far nothing ...

let's wait
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Re: How many white 164 Q4 alfas were factories?

Postby augusto drigo » Thu Feb 09, 2017 6:13 pm

Good morning my friends....

Unbelievably found another alfa romeo 164Q4 white for sale ... look at the link ... and I will post some photos too ......

In this case the boy asks for 15 thousand euros ... then it means that mine can be using this for more ... because it has only 56 thousand km and this one with the original wheels and the caramel seats

http://suchen.mobile.de/auto-inserat/al ... on=vipReco

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Re: How many white 164 Q4 alfas were factories?

Postby alfa east » Fri Feb 10, 2017 2:35 am

Yes, indeed. First, I thought it was a respray (I thought it didn't look like the factory-white) but the seller seems to imply that this is the original white color. I presume, Augusto, that you didn't receive a reply yet from the Alfa Historical Documentation Center?
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Re: How many white 164 Q4 alfas were factories?

Postby augusto drigo » Fri Feb 10, 2017 9:25 am

Good morning, my friend ... I still have no response from the museum ...

unfortunately
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Re: How many white 164 Q4 alfas were factories?

Postby Alfan » Fri Feb 10, 2017 10:17 am

Since the lower surrounds of the car is not the original colour (same on all 164's with this spoiler kit), my guess would be that it is a respray.
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Re: How many white 164 Q4 alfas were factories?

Postby HaydnW92 » Fri Feb 10, 2017 11:46 am

I suspect it has been resprayed too. It's not the only all-white 164 I have seen though - I bought my Recaro seats from a chap in Germany who was breaking his car, which was also all-white.
It looks very nice though.
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Re: How many white 164 Q4 alfas were factories?

Postby augusto drigo » Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:26 am

Good morning friends....

I received the email from the historical museum of alfa romeo, it is easier for me .... I will pay the fee and see about the history of the alpha .....
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Re: How many white 164 Q4 alfas were factories?

Postby augusto drigo » Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:40 am

Good morning friends....

Plus an alpha romeo 164 Q4 abandoned ... I'm thinking of rescuing and restoring will it be worth it ???
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Re: How many white 164 Q4 alfas were factories?

Postby MikeCZ » Sat Feb 25, 2017 9:13 am

I would say definetely - each 164 (and Alfa in general; ok, wich some examples when chassis is completely rusted, etc.) deservers to be rescured. And moreover those Racaro seats are very rare so at least they have their value :wink: Not mentioning all Viscomatic parts, BE suspension, etc. So at minimal for parts it could be a bargain of the century (depends how much current owner is aware of its value)..
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Re: How many white 164 Q4 alfas were factories?

Postby Alfan » Sat Feb 25, 2017 6:05 pm

I would also say that it is worth saving, but of course it all depends on the condition - and of course the asking price.

You have to pay a fee to get information about your Alfa Romeo from Alfa Romeo now? How much?
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