relays under the glovebox 24v super

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relays under the glovebox 24v super

Post by perry » Mon Jul 08, 2013 2:30 pm

Could someone direct me or tell me what the relays under the glove box are and what they are attached to cant find any information on them Have an intermittent fault and scaned all the diagrams but cant work out which are the relays under the glove box Thankyou.

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Re: relays under the glovebox 24v super

Post by 164 TD » Mon Jul 08, 2013 5:07 pm

Hi Perry,

You mean the ones in grid D6/E6? (not sure if they are there as well in a RHD car)

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Re: relays under the glovebox 24v super

Post by perry » Mon Jul 08, 2013 5:47 pm

Not sure these are them but in the RHD there is a metal plate under the glove box it has 4 single relays 1 double a power amplifier of some sort and the auto window control box for the drivers window cant find this set of relays on the diagram . ned to find out so as to back trace a intermitent surge/clicking in one of the relays tried replacing it but the fault is obviously some where else but would be nice to know where to look :roll:

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Re: relays under the glovebox 24v super

Post by 164 TD » Mon Jul 08, 2013 6:27 pm

These are the doorlockrelay and the window lift control unit.

Are you able to make a picture of the others?

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Re: relays under the glovebox 24v super

Post by perry » Tue Jul 09, 2013 3:26 pm

I will try and get more info Pic or diagram Thanks for your help the 2 you have listed are all on the same metal plate.

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Post by perry » Tue Jul 09, 2013 4:37 pm

i cant upload pics not sure why any ideas

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Post by ALFAHEIDA » Tue Jul 09, 2013 7:27 pm

@Perry, send them to me.... famheida et online.nl and I will put the pictures in this topic.

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Post by perry » Tue Jul 09, 2013 8:30 pm

Have sent them THANKYOU :)

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Post by ALFAHEIDA » Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:54 pm

perry wrote:Have sent them THANKYOU :)
Perry, can you send them without "Skydive"? I can not share these photo's....

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Post by perry » Wed Jul 10, 2013 8:27 am

Hi I did try again not sure if outlook sends them via sky drive automatically?

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Post by ALFAHEIDA » Wed Jul 10, 2013 8:13 pm

Perry I received them, but can not copy them. So I send them to Arjen who maybe can help you further..... :wink:
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Post by 164 TD » Wed Jul 10, 2013 8:15 pm

Here they are!

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Post by perry » Wed Jul 10, 2013 8:18 pm

Thank you for your help brill :wink:
Just hope someone knows what they do and where they go?

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Re: relays under the glovebox 24v super

Post by 164 TD » Wed Jul 10, 2013 8:28 pm

Very odd and interesting; to me it looks like the relais that are normally behind the instrumentpanel on a LHD are now dropped down to the footrest area.

Do you know if you have relais behind the instrumentpanel?

Another area that could have been moved is the area aside of your steeringcolumn; odd is that I count 4 relais in your car and that the area behind the instrumentpanel counts 5 and the area aside of the steeringcolumn counts 3!

Where is the connector attached to who dissapears behind the double relay?

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Post by ALFAHEIDA » Wed Jul 10, 2013 8:32 pm

Thnx Arjen.... :wink:
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Re: relays under the glovebox 24v super

Post by perry » Wed Jul 10, 2013 8:35 pm

There are 3 under the column .I think the double relay is for the windows.
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Re: relays under the glovebox 24v super

Post by 164 TD » Wed Jul 10, 2013 8:39 pm

In my database I found a picture of the situation behind the instrumentpanel; I count a total of 5 relays in my 1994 TD without aircon.
The green relay says "33" the other ones are grey and the front ones read "4C"


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Re: relays under the glovebox 24v super

Post by perry » Wed Jul 10, 2013 8:44 pm

I dont seem to have any behind the instruments and think that the the ones in my pic are all 4c Could they be the same ones

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Re: relays under the glovebox 24v super

Post by perry » Wed Jul 10, 2013 8:48 pm

It does have air con but strangely no air bag system Its 1993/94 And does seem to be a little bit 12v and a bit 24v? Think it is one of the early models . It does have electric adjustable seats and heated leather.

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Re: relays under the glovebox 24v super

Post by 164 TD » Wed Jul 10, 2013 8:50 pm

Should be the relays I17, I25,194,Q22 and Q32*

I cannot find Q32 in the online pages but I do have it in my manuals at home; it is the auxillary climatisation relay.

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Re: relays under the glovebox 24v super

Post by perry » Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:17 pm

Thankyou the one that is listed Q22 is the one that seems to be the problem but thats the only one that matches the colour codes on the wires ?
But that will give me a start thanks?

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Re: relays under the glovebox 24v super

Post by perry » Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:42 pm

I think I may have sorted some of it out The double relay is N11 a and N11 b this is the door lock control.
Left to right Q22 . 194 . 125 117 I think? will have to investigate further in the day light but I am 10x closer than I was Thankyou to both of you Really helpfull .Let you know how it goes :mrgreen:

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