164 Q4 DIAG

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trefle96
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164 Q4 DIAG

Post by trefle96 » Tue Jan 12, 2016 6:06 pm

Hello everyone,

I introduce myself, I'm French (sorry for my english google translate), and I have an Alfa 164 Q4.

The 164 is down for some time. It starts and shuts down after a few moments.

At first, she was just doing micro-cuts.

I followed the post of Wilco, but I have no results to diagnostics .

I'm stuck in this moment
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I made the installation of version 14, 15 and 16
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What is the problem ? I miss something?


For connection to the 164, I use the cable KKL VAG + tip 3 pins
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This is the right elements to use?

Last question :
the key position must be on it?
+12v at the red wireless to the 3 pins ?


Thank you all for your help, I wish I could again enjoy my 164

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Alfan
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Re: 164 Q4 DIAG

Post by Alfan » Thu Jan 14, 2016 10:20 pm

Welcome to the forum - that is a nice car, photos of it would be even better :)

The problem with your car sounds to me like a fuel supply issue.

About the program, does it not find a port, when you start it? If not, that is a problem with your pc or the cables. It is the correct cables you have. Is there a red light on the main blue part, when you connect it to the pc? If not, you have no connection. And make sure that you actually have 12V supply. Some of these cables can be defective, even when new!

If it does find a port, you need to select the correct Motronic unit (3.7 for the Q4).
1994 Alfa Romeo 164 Q4 Proteo Rosso 550.000km
1989 Lancia Thema 8.32 Verde Indy 270kkm
2001 Alfa Romeo Spider 3.0 24V Blue Lightning 65kkm
2011 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Multiair TCT Bianco Pastello 195kkm
2015 Alfa Romeo 4C Rosso Competizione 100kkm

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Re: 164 Q4 DIAG

Post by trefle96 » Fri Jan 15, 2016 4:45 pm

Hi Alfan !

Thank you for the welcoming !

a fuel supply issue ? Sometimes it starts, and sometimes it does not start at all ...


NO it does not find a port . But i have to connect 12v at the red wireless ?

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Re: 164 Q4 DIAG

Post by Alfan » Fri Jan 15, 2016 5:07 pm

If it can start, but stops almost immediately, it sounds to me that it is not getting enough petrol.

If it can not find a port, then something is not correct with the pc setup for the cable.

When that is ok, you need to turn the ignition on.

There is a red and black wire on that cable + the 3pin black plug. For the red and black cable (NOT the 3pin plug) you need to supply 12V, just like you put red to '+' and black to '-' on a car battery - which can also be used in this case.

If you have all the above things done, it should be possible to connect :)
1994 Alfa Romeo 164 Q4 Proteo Rosso 550.000km
1989 Lancia Thema 8.32 Verde Indy 270kkm
2001 Alfa Romeo Spider 3.0 24V Blue Lightning 65kkm
2011 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Multiair TCT Bianco Pastello 195kkm
2015 Alfa Romeo 4C Rosso Competizione 100kkm

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Re: 164 Q4 DIAG

Post by wilco » Fri Feb 05, 2016 11:02 am

do you have the red code key ?
Maybe immobilizer is giving problems ? '
check if you hear the fuel pump running.
if not, check if it gets Power.
If not, check if there is Power at the fuelpump relais under the Hood.
And check if the relay itself is ok.

about the Connection. yea, you might have got the wrong drivers installed ?
See if it shows up in Device manager. 'If so, check what port.
You can also manual Select a port in the program. '
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