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putting 166 brakes in a 164?

Post by obenhaus » Sun Mar 24, 2019 4:46 pm

Hi guys,

I own an Alfa 166 3.0 V6 which drives very nicely but has rust, the rear suspension is worn out and the heating / airco is somewhat defunct. So I thought about if its parts could be taken to improve my 164, most of all by putting the Brembo brakes on it? Guess it's not plug'n'pluy but needs an adapter?

Thanks for your ideas and advise
Nils
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Re: putting 166 brakes in a 164?

Post by MikeCZ » Sun Mar 24, 2019 5:19 pm

Hi,

Yes, adaptor is needed, something like https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/brake-bracke ... 3189567301
Alfa Romeo 164 2.0 V6TB 1995
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Re: putting 166 brakes in a 164?

Post by obenhaus » Sun Mar 24, 2019 6:19 pm

Thank you :)

Anyone who tried that out ?
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1993 Alfa 164 Super V6 24V blu genoa 477
1993 Alfa 164 Super V6 24V CAE blu genoa 477 - stored
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Re: putting 166 brakes in a 164?

Post by AlfaWhiz » Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:36 pm

I know of a few guys who tried it, and I will be looking to do just that as soon as my front rotors wear out :D

From what I heard, you want 166 4 pot calipers and 330 mm brembo discs from GTA. The discs are 32 mm thick compared to 166's 28 mm so calipers need to be widened but still far easier and cheaper than GTA calipers which have a radial mount, thus more difficult to adapt.

166 discs are 5x100 as far as I reckon so no luck with direct plug and play.

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Re: putting 166 brakes in a 164?

Post by Tamariini » Sun Apr 14, 2019 5:11 pm

AlfaWhiz wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:36 pm
I know of a few guys who tried it, and I will be looking to do just that as soon as my front rotors wear out :D

From what I heard, you want 166 4 pot calipers and 330 mm brembo discs from GTA. The discs are 32 mm thick compared to 166's 28 mm so calipers need to be widened but still far easier and cheaper than GTA calipers which have a radial mount, thus more difficult to adapt.

166 discs are 5x100 as far as I reckon so no luck with direct plug and play.
No, 166 discs are 5x108
--Alfa Romeo Giulia 2.0T 2017--
--Fiat 500 2016--
--Alfa Romeo 75 3.0 V6 Turbo 1988--
--Alfa Romeo 75 3.0 V6 1987--
--Alfa Romeo 75 2.5 V6 24v 1986--
--Alfa Romeo Spider 2.0 TS 1972--
--Alfa Romeo Spider 3.0 12v 1999--
--Maserati 3200 GT 2001--

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Re: putting 166 brakes in a 164?

Post by AlfaWhiz » Sun Apr 14, 2019 5:50 pm

Yes correct, my bad as I wrote of the top of my head. :wink:

My point still stands though, not directly useable.

I'm planning on doing mine with 330x32 mm and 166 4 piston calipers as described above but probably earliest next year, so can't help much more other than dropping an idea until then :D

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Re: putting 166 brakes in a 164?

Post by obenhaus » Mon Apr 22, 2019 9:51 am

AlfaWhiz wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:36 pm
From what I heard, you want 166 4 pot calipers and 330 mm brembo discs from GTA.
Ah, no, Alfa 166 Brembo should have disks that are 310 x 28 ...
1993 Alfa Spider 2.0 IE nero 817
1993 Alfa 164 Super V6 24V blu genoa 477
1993 Alfa 164 Super V6 24V CAE blu genoa 477 - stored
2000 Alfa 916 S1 grigio Eclisse 677
2001 Alfa 156 V6 24V blu vela

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Re: putting 166 brakes in a 164?

Post by MikeCZ » Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:47 am

But as AlfaWizz said, those have different bolt pattern (5x108), so unusable on your wheel hubs unless you want to have them re-drilled.
Alfa Romeo 164 2.0 V6TB 1995
Ex: Alfa Romeo 159 2.4 JTDm 2007 berlina
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