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Post by 164 TD » Tue Dec 27, 2011 2:48 pm

A study sketch for a Super with the licenceplate integrated in the rear bumper.

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Re: 164 Super

Post by alfa east » Thu Dec 29, 2011 5:24 am

Interesting concept; loyal readers of this and especially the Dutch sister site know that license plates are a pet peeve of mine and just the fact that someone took the effort to think about it and tried an alternative by relocating it on, what is still the best bum in the business, deserves praise.

Toyota, always a copier of head and tail lights, did one on their 1994 Carina:
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I find the original 164 solution more elegant (despite of the colour of certain license plates not doing the design any favours).

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Re: 164 Super

Post by 164 TD » Fri Dec 30, 2011 7:09 pm

Alfa didn't put much effort in hiding the Superseries "mules" during the testphase...

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Re: 164 Super

Post by alfa east » Sat Dec 31, 2011 4:38 am

:D No, you wonder; what was the point!

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Re: 164 Super

Post by alfa east » Tue Jan 03, 2012 4:32 am

Laughable!It's hard to find the masking tape!

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Re: 164 Super

Post by alfa east » Tue Jan 03, 2012 5:23 am

Mule for a Super or an FL??
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Re: 164 Super

Post by mustpost » Tue Jan 03, 2012 10:53 am

On the last pic is it possible the black tape holds on panel resonance sensors?

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Re: 164 Super

Post by x3mperformance » Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:01 pm

It's actually a bit entertaining to look at this topic...

Boy, you have no idea, what i've seen, at all.

If i tell you i had 3 trips to a site, near a small town called Arjeploug, northern Sweden. Loaded with some "equipment" at my truck, in January last year.
This is the place.
http://www.colmis.com/

I had even a full weekend friday to monday inside, at the "wrong" side of the fence.

I can tell a bit.
Some (=alot) Fiat 500's was driving arround.
The next Fiat Coupe' (Coupe' Fiat) drove a ving mirror of at my trailer... That's true.
Peugeot tested a open, free wheeled (F1 or Lotus Seven [But shorter] style) 2 person roadster.
Audi was there...
SAAB's with Haldex marks all over (Sadly the SAAB company is no longer.)
Opel tested next gen. Insignia 1 was 4x4 + V6 + Turbo Sound was awsome, NOT Busso but close (Might be the turbo...)
So i've seen some of this stuff close and up front, talked to technicians and touched the cars.
Some was even not taped up or diguised at all.
Alfa 164 Q4 1994+95 (2x232 Ps)
Alfa 164 Super 3,0 24V '93
Alfa GTV 2,0 '84

Former Italien cars.:
Alfa 156 SW 2,0 TS 16v '00 (155 ps)
Alfa 155 1,6 TS 16v (120 Ps)
Fiat Tipo GT 2000 Turbo 8v (330 ps)
Fiat Tipo 1,4 DGT (68 ps)
Alfa Sud 1,3 Super [1,7QV] (117 Ps)

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Re: 164 Super

Post by alfa east » Wed Jan 04, 2012 5:13 am

Hmm, sounds like an interesting place to visit; pity it's not open for private individuals.

Btw, seems a bit over the top to test open sportscars in polar conditions!

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Re: 164 Super

Post by x3mperformance » Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:40 pm

alfa east wrote:Hmm, sounds like an interesting place to visit; pity it's not open for private individuals.

Btw, seems a bit over the top to test open sportscars in polar conditions!
have you given any thoughts to stuff like,; ABS EDS, Electronic limited slip diff, launch control etc...
Optimal conditions to test that kind of stuff.

By the way, there where - 36 deg below...
Friggin' cold, but not feeling THAT cold.
It's a different world up there, especially in the winter.

There's other test facilities like Colmis in that arear, and on the public roads, i spotted the new BMW 3 series, even a M3 and the facelifted 6 series running arround without any tape or matt black painting...

I'f you go, it's not that tough as it seems to.
There's a lot of ski resorts on the Norwegian side, only a short drive to Arjeplough, and arround 20 at night, the secret stuff enters the public roads.
Very exiting as a petrol head with 104 octane running in the veins...
Alfa 164 Q4 1994+95 (2x232 Ps)
Alfa 164 Super 3,0 24V '93
Alfa GTV 2,0 '84

Former Italien cars.:
Alfa 156 SW 2,0 TS 16v '00 (155 ps)
Alfa 155 1,6 TS 16v (120 Ps)
Fiat Tipo GT 2000 Turbo 8v (330 ps)
Fiat Tipo 1,4 DGT (68 ps)
Alfa Sud 1,3 Super [1,7QV] (117 Ps)

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