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Lowering springs on a Q4

Postby Tamariini » Tue May 08, 2012 2:20 pm

Anyone found a decent set of lowering springs to be used in Q4?

I'm not looking for a sump-breaking 60-80mm of lowering but more likely 20-30mm.

Does original shocks work with a lowered suspension? anyone tried?
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Re: Lowering springs on a Q4

Postby alfa east » Tue May 08, 2012 3:53 pm

Tamariini wrote:Does original shocks work with a lowered suspension? anyone tried?

Yes: http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/164-168 ... 64-q4.html
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Re: Lowering springs on a Q4

Postby alfa east » Tue May 08, 2012 3:58 pm

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Re: Lowering springs on a Q4

Postby Tamariini » Sun Dec 23, 2012 1:59 pm

I bought a new set of OZ ultraleggera's at 19" as a christmas present for my Q4 :D

So this lowering issue is now back on again. I think car would look strange with those wheels without lowering...

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Also bought a set of Ferrari 355 brake calibers to upgrade the brakes :wink:

Anyone knows where to get lowering springs?
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Re: Lowering springs on a Q4

Postby ALFAHEIDA » Sun Dec 23, 2012 2:47 pm

There are no providors anymore to lower a Q4.
You could sent an email regarding this to H&R, but I think the're out of stock for a long while.
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Re: Lowering springs on a Q4

Postby alfa east » Sun Dec 23, 2012 3:04 pm

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Re: Lowering springs on a Q4

Postby Tamariini » Sun Dec 23, 2012 5:31 pm

alfa east wrote:Have you written an email to Frank?
http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/164-168 ... 64-q4.html


I tried, but didn't get in contact with him.
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Re: Lowering springs on a Q4

Postby alfa east » Mon Dec 24, 2012 4:35 am

And I guess to J. Prinsen as well?
From the same thread:
http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/164-168 ... -q4-3.html
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Re: Lowering springs on a Q4

Postby alfa east » Tue Dec 25, 2012 6:43 am

Tamariini wrote:
alfa east wrote:Have you written an email to Frank?
http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/164-168 ... 64-q4.html


I tried, but didn't get in contact with him.

He is not active anymore on the forums (fora?)

I guess he ordered the springs here (since he mentions that factory was founded in 1853):
http://www.federn-bischoff.de/index.en. ... v=bischoff
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Re: Lowering springs on a Q4

Postby alfa164superwebmaster » Sat Apr 06, 2013 10:45 am

I know this is going to sound crazy, but you can actually cut 1 or even 2 rings of the rear springs without any issues.

I lowered my Q4 using this method when running my 19" OZ Superleggera's, and it worked fine.

There remains plenty of pre-load on the springs, and I would not want stiffer springs in combination with the low 35 serie tires.

For the front you can use regular 24v lowering springs (e.g. FK / Eibach, etc.)
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Re: Lowering springs on a Q4

Postby hilko » Sat Apr 06, 2013 12:47 pm

alfa164superwebmaster wrote:I know this is going to sound crazy, but you can actually cut 1 or even 2 rings of the rear springs without any issues.

I lowered my Q4 using this method when running my 19" OZ Superleggera's, and it worked fine.



Not too stiff or too short a travel height of the springs when driving fast?
An acquaintance of mine once tried this on his car and at higher speeds I was glad I had my flight license in my pocket even on a Dutch highway...

Isn't there any risk of leaking stock absorbers when they are not new anymore? The internal seal ring will be in contact with a possible rougher surface, or is this just theoretically speaking?
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Re: Lowering springs on a Q4

Postby alfa164superwebmaster » Sun Apr 14, 2013 12:41 pm

No, it was trouble free ;-)

There remains plenty of travel in the suspension for the shockabsorbers to work correctly.
At the front you will need a pair of 'regular' lowering springs, but these are easy to come by.

The rear shock absorbers are pretty forgiving, if you remember the Alfa Boet 164 Q4 that was rediculously low at the rear (alledgedly special springs by Savali), that car used the original shocks and didnt handle too bad either (just got stuck on every speed bump :-))
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Re: Lowering springs on a Q4

Postby shane » Mon May 23, 2016 12:01 pm

Tamariini wrote:I bought a new set of OZ ultraleggera's at 19" as a christmas present for my Q4 :D

So this lowering issue is now back on again. I think car would look strange with those wheels without lowering...

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Also bought a set of Ferrari 355 brake calibers to upgrade the brakes :wink:

Anyone knows where to get lowering springs?

I loved our brake setup ,I was thinking of using Volvo 4 pot calipers with slotted rotors
I only have 17x6 1/2" with 215x45x17 tyres
Do you fine that the CV drive shaft rub on the power steering belt ?
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Re: Lowering springs on a Q4

Postby Alfissimo International » Fri Jul 29, 2016 1:26 am

I would not recommend too much lowering or lowering at all. You do not gain much from it. I am working on some springs that lower the front but need some rear Q4 springs to copy. Otherwise you can cut 1 coil off rear but you run the risk of wearing out electronic struts much quicker and you loose the factory suspension geometry which is pretty much flawless.
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Re: Lowering springs on a Q4

Postby Alfan » Fri Jul 29, 2016 9:42 am

Look at this thread, it is possible to get Q4 rear springs:

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1589&start=125
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