Alfa 164 2.0V6 TB Super (1995) - MikeCZ

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Re: Alfa 164 2.0V6 TB Super (1995) - MikeCZ

Post by Alfan » Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:32 am

Thanks for sharing, nice photos and I am sure it got attention :)
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Post by MikeCZ » Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:23 pm

Indeed it did :)
In last few months I was still fighting with some issues - car had less power and higher fuel consumpion then it should. Although at first I suspected turbocharging issue, after some digging it turned out to be problem with ignition. Cables on distributor were switched for 1st and 2nd cylinder. Which was surprising finding, because I did not disconnect them from distributor during disassembly - they were sucked in to distributor, so I took that off as one part, and when assembling I put cable with ignition sensor automatically in to spark in 1st cyllinder. Don't know why before engine repair it was working quite ok, but not afterwards. Anyway now I connected them correctly, changed spark plugs (just in case) and it started to work Ok - power is back (approximately :)) and fuel consumption seems also back to normal.

This weekend it also moved to new garage... in Poland.
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And today I finally managed to clean the leater with combination of clener + sealant DJ supernatural. I think that the difference is quite visible :)
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(photo taken before applying sealant)
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Post by AlfaWhiz » Sat Sep 14, 2019 6:38 pm

Great work Mike, seats look spotless! Very impressive 8) and welcome to PL, greetings from Wroclaw 8)

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Post by killergame » Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:43 pm

Wou that looks almost like new! Great condition :shock: :D
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Post by MikeCZ » Sat Nov 09, 2019 3:42 pm

Thank you both :) Well the drivers seat is in a bit worse condition, but still not that bad :)

As for the update about the car recently I have replaced master clutch cylinder (the one on the gearbox), as it started to leak (despite the fact that the "old" one was replaced two years ago - but I guess it didn't like to lay around during engine replacement without the breaking fluid and it rusted inside.
Also based on my counting the fuel consumption is back to 10-10,5l/100km, which is the same as before the repair - so it looks all works as it should (despite some small and intermittent idle RPM fluctuation...).
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Post by 164EVER » Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:15 pm

Beautyful and soon powerful great ALFA you have, wish you long road with.
164 3.0 V6 1988 330000KM
164 2.0 TS 1989 243000KM
164 SUPER 2.5 TD 1993 308000KM
156 1.8 TS 2001 165000KM.
EX : 33 SW 1.5, 1.3 ie, 1.5 ie, 33 1.7 QV 16V, GIULIETTA 116 1.6, ALFA 6 2.5 (X3), 146 boxer 1.6 , 164 SUPER 2.0 TS.

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Post by MikeCZ » Tue Dec 31, 2019 9:57 am

Thanks :)
I'm leaking braking fluid somewhere, still :/ In the area of the gearbox (that's where was wet spot under the car), not sure if the new master cylinder is leaking again or what...
In the meantime I got hold of this "gem" :)
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Will need some restoration but in overall is in ok condition :)
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Post by MikeCZ » Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:31 pm

So, spring is here! And with that first problems :D
First I found, where I'm leaking the breaking fluid - it was not from the clutch system, but from the master break cylinder, the two gaskets on the top (one leading to the reservoir) started to leak.
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Since it's very hard to get the replacement nowadays, I was lucky enough and we found those gaskets. Because in ePer for V6 engines it's listed only as one part (the complete MBC). Luckily, under TD engine, it's also divided into sub-parts, and there's it is - 9948316 - and it's still possible to order it.
I replaced those, and although they're slightly different (smaller) on the outer side, inside is the same, and now it stopped to leak.
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So one small win. Also I got new reservoir for collant, old was ugly despite my attempts to clean it and it was disrupted the look of the engine bay :D
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And I also change oil to Penrite 10w40, I'm interested how it will behave. It was recommended to me since it has more anti-abrassive additives (so is now restricted for sale in the EU :roll: ). So far I have to say the oil pressure is lower by +-0,7bar in idle in compare to 10w60, which actually should be better (now it's around 0,8bar at idle).
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What is bothering me is that fact, that during bleeding the brak system (and flushing it) I found out one rear wheel is in 50% of cases not breaking - so it seems I have clogged/stuck the rear load regulator...will have to check that.
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Post by 164EVER » Mon Apr 20, 2020 6:52 pm

courage
164 3.0 V6 1988 330000KM
164 2.0 TS 1989 243000KM
164 SUPER 2.5 TD 1993 308000KM
156 1.8 TS 2001 165000KM.
EX : 33 SW 1.5, 1.3 ie, 1.5 ie, 33 1.7 QV 16V, GIULIETTA 116 1.6, ALFA 6 2.5 (X3), 146 boxer 1.6 , 164 SUPER 2.0 TS.

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Post by MikeCZ » Sun Aug 30, 2020 6:39 pm

Some furter update. About a month ago I have pulled out the fuel pump to cleanup the pump basket. At the same time I have replaced the connectors on hoses going to the lid on the tank, as someobody demaged them - one of them was even missing the release ring, so I had to cut them out. The new connectors had to be modified slightly, but are working fine.
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Yesterday I also did first longer trip since the engine overhaul, something over 900km (now it's about 3000km since the repair) in a day. And surprisingly, nothing has broken down :D I have to say I'm finally starting to enjoy this car again and even trusting it :) So we also hit the mileston I was almost not even hoping for already
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Also thanks to a friend we fixed loose bolt on linkaget between gearbox and gear lever, so now the changing gears is precise and really enjoyable :)
And I also picked up the wheels from Q4 for which I was hunting for a long long time. They will need refurbishment, but I'm still glad I finally got them.
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Post by MikeCZ » Thu Oct 01, 2020 4:33 pm

Today I finally picked up the wheels from refurbishment workshop, I'm quite pleased with the result :)
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And as I'm inpatient person I had to put them on straight away :D
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Also I used new tyres (Falken Ziex) as on the old wheels I have 7 years old Michelin and I did not want to play around with swaping old tyres (despite the fact they still have some tread).
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Post by alfisti-164 » Fri Oct 02, 2020 12:34 pm

Looks very good!
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Post by Alfan » Tue Oct 06, 2020 2:33 pm

Looking good 8)

And it was a good choice to get new tires on!
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1989 Lancia Thema 8.32 Verde Indy
2001 Alfa Romeo Spider 3.0 24V Blue Lightning
2011 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Multiair TCT Bianco Pastello
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Post by Raphael164Super24V » Wed Oct 07, 2020 7:48 pm

These wheels are great and match really well with the 164 Super
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Post by 164EVER » Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:24 pm

Belle passion Mike longue vie avec elle.
164 3.0 V6 1988 330000KM
164 2.0 TS 1989 243000KM
164 SUPER 2.5 TD 1993 308000KM
156 1.8 TS 2001 165000KM.
EX : 33 SW 1.5, 1.3 ie, 1.5 ie, 33 1.7 QV 16V, GIULIETTA 116 1.6, ALFA 6 2.5 (X3), 146 boxer 1.6 , 164 SUPER 2.0 TS.

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Post by MikeCZ » Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:46 pm

Thank's guys. A bit sadly, but today I sold my 164. Only what cheers me up is that that it found a good new owner.
Reason was only one place in garrage and I wanted to start some new project.
So today she drove away:
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Post by Alfan » Sun Jan 10, 2021 3:29 pm

What a shame to see it go, but good to hear that you found a good owner for it.

I hope you will find another exciting project to write about :)
1994 Alfa Romeo 164 Q4 Proteo Rosso
1989 Lancia Thema 8.32 Verde Indy
2001 Alfa Romeo Spider 3.0 24V Blue Lightning
2011 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Multiair TCT Bianco Pastello
2015 Alfa Romeo 4C Rosso Competizione
1980 Alfa Romeo Alfetta Blindata Bianco

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Post by MikeCZ » Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:18 am

Thanks, Alfan. I was looking for something else and was considering things like 75, Alfetta; some Lancia... but at the end it turned out a bit differently - I bought a classic Mini. Quite nicely restored (although some personal touch will need to be done), and though it only has 998 carburetor (something I wanted to try) engine I have plans to swap it for 1.3 carb later on.
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Ex: Alfa Romeo 164 2.0 V6TB 1995, Honda Civic VIII 1.8 2010, Seat Leon ST FR1.4 TSI 2017, Alfa Romeo 159 2.4 JTDm 2007 berlina, Fiat Stilo 1.4 MW 2007

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