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Ladin164QV
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My 164 24V QV...

Post by Ladin164QV » Fri Jan 29, 2010 11:28 am

Hello 164 fans, im from Czech rep., and this is my black love, its 01/93' QV, 135tkm on the clock...

My mods:
R springs, Remus exhaust
Work VS-SD front 7/17", back 8/17" with GoodYear F1 215/45
black frontlights (with black alu crosses inside like Hella does on Bmw)
black interior
music - Alpine unit, Canton speakers, Hifonics amplifier and Hertz subwoofer
green ambilight from roof console (like Bmw and other newer cars have...)
completely new suspension, rear brake pipes, brakes Zimmermann/ATE

I wanted to buy Q2 for this spring, but i need to finish my flat first... I have also looked on Squadra chip, have anyone any references? Please post them :wink:

So few photos:

when i have bought it:
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springs:
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shielded exhaust:
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black engine:
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And now is sleeping, we have lot of snow and salt here... Image

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Post by ALFAHEIDA » Fri Jan 29, 2010 11:52 am

Hi there!
Beautiful Qv 24v, and your enginebay looks great.
How are the H&R springs performing under your car, specific in combination with your Sport/Normal suspension.

Great to have you here.

Regards,

Erwin 
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Post by Ladin164QV » Fri Jan 29, 2010 12:16 pm

Thank you,
in the auto mode is it still relatively comfortable, but on bad road is it a little "wobbly". In sport its OK, solid, no wobbling, like oversized go-kart. (i dont now how long Image)
I now it will be ideal with Koni shocks, but it is all about $ Image

What do you thing about Squadra-Chip, it is worth the money? I'am sceptical about chips on atmospheric engines, but many people are happy with this

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Post by ALFAHEIDA » Fri Jan 29, 2010 1:29 pm

I do not have experience with the Squadra chip for the Qv 24v, later on when my 3.5Qv is finished i probably visit Squadra for a chip.
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Post by 164 TD » Fri Jan 29, 2010 2:58 pm

Awesome pictures!! If it is from early 1993, it must be one of the first 24V's of the QV range.

You have some more pictures from the enginebay?I love that black and shiny !!

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Post by ALFAHEIDA » Fri Jan 29, 2010 4:40 pm

The Qv 24v's where produced from December '92 till March '93. Then the Q4 came.
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Post by Ladin164QV » Fri Jan 29, 2010 6:20 pm

Iam very happy you like her
Yes, she is one of the first of facelifted 164, no airbag (i dont like the airbag steering wheels, this is very nice)... My precedent 164 was 12V FL from 1/93, have the same faulty pillar covering (peeling leather, they cuted them too small)... In both cars i changed them from newer years.
I have a "birth list" from an Fiat dealer, and interesting is she was a presse wagen

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After I have bought the car, the engine runs poorly, so she got new NGK platinum spark plugs, new fuel lines, new injector o-rings and all the intake must be re-sealed, now runs perfectly...

Intake ports was aligned from previous owner...
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re-sealing...
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and after painting:

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And i have recently bought new fog lights for +-15euro on local ebay Image
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Post by ALFAHEIDA » Fri Jan 29, 2010 7:21 pm

Great pics. Thnx!
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Post by alfa east » Sat Jan 30, 2010 3:54 am

Indeed, great photos. A true labor of love. Welcome! By the way, I agree on the steering wheel the non-airbag ones look better.
When you talk about the pillar covering, do you mean the B-pillar (where the back of the front seats are)?

I have no experience with the squadra-chip, I understand you need minimum 98 octane fuel for it to have its full effect. In Thailand the highest is 95. I could boost that with after-market octane-booster but that adds significant to your fuel costs. Besides I am happy with the performance in standard form.

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Post by Ladin164QV » Sat Jan 30, 2010 10:15 am

Alfa east: Thanks.
Yes, i mean the A and B pillars, it was bad only on 93 (as they are learning :D ), newer years are OK.

Here we have 95, 98 (on most fuel stations), then on some is 100, and Shell 100+ "V-Power". But i dont see any diference when i take this fuel, maybe it add a few HP which is hard to recognize...
Btw. , our "great" government has recently raised taxes so fuel is much expensive Image

Alfaheida: I dont know before that 24V QV are produced only 4 months, but if I thinking about it you're right. Image

It will be interesting to know production numbers, but i haven't seen any prod. table, only for the Q4.

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Post by ALFAHEIDA » Sat Jan 30, 2010 11:08 am

Production figures: Qv 24v only 988 build. Image
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Post by Ladin164QV » Sat Jan 30, 2010 11:38 am

ALFAHEIDA said:
Production figures: Qv 24v only 988 build. Image

Nice, thank you very much Image

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Post by 164 TD » Sat Jan 30, 2010 5:10 pm

I notice that the brackets for the crashsensors of the airbag are not installed yet in this early 1993 model. Although not installed in all FL/Supermodels, those brackets where already present in later FL/Supertypes, even when the cheashsensors weren't there.

Another thing I notice is that the drivers windshieldwiper is a "single arm" type, later models had the "dual arm" wiper which always hit the edge of the hood.

I replaced the dual arm wiper for a single arm wiper on both of my 164's.

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Post by Fred164 » Sun Jan 31, 2010 8:47 pm

Welcome, beautiful QV you've got there Image
are these picture's taken in Česka Budějovice ? (been in that part of Czech rep. during a vacation, and this year we are going again to another part)
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Post by alf@75 » Sun Jan 31, 2010 8:50 pm

whats the name on the wheels? Looked great on the car...

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Post by ALFAHEIDA » Mon Feb 01, 2010 7:32 am

Work VS-SD front 7/17", back 8/17" with GoodYear F1 215/45
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Post by alf@75 » Mon Feb 01, 2010 3:06 pm

thanks, looks like it`s out of production..

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Post by Ladin164QV » Tue Feb 02, 2010 3:54 pm

Fred164: Yes, is it in Č.B., Image we have meetings here every year. But this year I dont know, because in that time many people wants to go to Milano Centenary.

Alfa75: I have seen many 164 on these wheels in Switzerland, silver or also polished, i have bought this set as used from Polish market, 1 wheel need only resealing, Fit perfectly (5x98, ET35)...
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Post by alf@75 » Tue Feb 02, 2010 6:51 pm

I only find them on Nissan and Honda places, and they wont fit.. So please give me a hint if you see some more Image

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Post by Fred164 » Tue Feb 02, 2010 9:10 pm

Ladin164QV said:
Fred164: Yes, is it in Č.B., Image we have meetings here every year. But this year I dont know, because in that time many people wants to go to Milano Centenary.
See, I thought I recognized it, I spotted this 164 Super there:

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Post by alfa east » Wed Feb 03, 2010 5:13 am

Geez, a carbon copy of mine! Especially, with that parking fine under the windshield wiper (I collect those frequently), you got me worried there for a moment, Fred ;)

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Post by wilco » Wed Feb 03, 2010 2:13 pm

alfa east said:
Geez, a carbon copy of mine! Especially, with that parking fine under the windshield wiper (I collect those frequently), you got me worried there for a moment, Fred ;)
rofl.. i guess all countries are the same these days.. last year i was in norway, my m8 also found one under its wiper at the airport...

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Post by ALFAHEIDA » Wed Feb 03, 2010 6:13 pm

alf@75 said:
I only find them on Nissan and Honda places, and they wont fit.. So please give me a hint if you see some more Image
here a link from a guy selling a set:
Rims

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Post by alf@75 » Wed Feb 03, 2010 7:20 pm

Very expensive yes, but 18" also. I want 17" :)

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Post by Ladin164QV » Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:15 am

Yesterday I made some night photos, but i forget to press TEST for better effect... I love 164 :D

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