Hello from Hamburg!

obenhaus · Post by **obenhaus** » Sat Oct 02, 2010 1:54 pm

name: Nils Obenhaus

place of residence: Hamburg

my Alfas:
- Alfa 164 Super V6 12V 1998 black-met 632
- Alfa 164 Super V6 24V 1994 bianco freddo 230
- Alfa Spider 2.0IE 1993 nero 601

obenhaus · Post by **obenhaus** » Sat Oct 02, 2010 1:56 pm

alfa east · Post by **alfa east** » Sun Oct 03, 2010 9:00 am

Welcome to the site, Obenaus. Nice car park do you have a 164 in black and white and in 12v and 24v. Gorgeous spider for the summer months. When you compare the 12V and 24V what are your conclusions?

obenhaus · Post by **obenhaus** » Sun Oct 03, 2010 11:01 am

Hello Alfa East, thanks for your compliments.

I cannot fully agree to what is issued many times, namely that the 24V would feel less powerful at low revs than 12V does. The 24V feels completely different. While a 12V has a bit of attitude of a cruiser 24V roars on from start and makes clear that it is a sports engine. 24V lust even more for revs. A significant difference is that 24V pushes stronger at high speed: while 12V does not rush so much if 200km/h is passed 24V pushs on. Finally in a 24V you're not able to listen to a late Ferrari in traffics alongside to you anymore: the sound you hear is yours

StankoCroatia · Post by **StankoCroatia** » Sun Oct 03, 2010 10:08 pm

Hello Nils...and welcome!

very nice collection...you don't have 164 cabrio...maybe? ...in red?

alfa east · Post by **alfa east** » Mon Oct 04, 2010 5:19 am

@Nils: Interesting comparison. The 12V was never sold in Thailand so I can't compare on that, but on the engine note, I fully agree. There is nothing wrong with a Ferrari sound, but Alfa's 3.0L 24v is so unique; nothing can compare.

obenhaus · Post by **obenhaus** » Mon Oct 04, 2010 8:18 am

Indeed, I don't want to refer to the sound quality but to the noisiness. A 12V is as decent that you're able to listen even to a late Ferrari that is beside you in traffics. But a 24V has this sound like power is brewing under the bonnet. And its as noisy that you don't realize the sound of others anymore.

alfa east · Post by **alfa east** » Mon Oct 04, 2010 1:48 pm

Yes, that is true. I notice that I never switch on the stereo in the 164 (or my 19 year old daughter is with me in the car

). I rather listen to the engine noise.

cdrewett · Post by **cdrewett** » Sat Nov 27, 2010 5:57 pm

Hi Nils
I see your 24v is a 1998 car which must make it one of the last to be sold in Germany. Mine was registered end of September 1997 and I haven't heard of a younger one in UK.
Chris

obenhaus · Post by **obenhaus** » Fri Dec 03, 2010 4:07 pm

cdrewett wrote:Hi Nils
I see your 24v is a 1998 car which must make it one of the last to be sold in Germany. Mine was registered end of September 1997 and I haven't heard of a younger one in UK.
Chris

Hi Chris,

Your statement is not to the point: My 24V is a 1994 car whereas my 12V is a 1997 which was registered 3/1998 as one of the last in Germany. Late 24V as yours are quite seldom I think, aren't they?

Nils

JB_QV · Post by **JB_QV** » Wed Jan 12, 2011 8:43 pm

Some 164 were still on sale *new* in 2000, a friend of mine said, here in Italy! There was a factory phase-out, starting late 1998, the cars were almost all in genoa blue, with blue velour interiors, wooden steering wheel and gear knob, AM/FM radio with CD, and electric seats. Most of them were Twin Spark and TD models. Few V6 Turbos and very, very little % of 3.0 24V since the heavy taxes that were here in Italy for cars over 2,0 L.

Obenhaus: wunderschoens Autos, sehr gut gemacht!

obenhaus · Post by **obenhaus** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:43 pm

@JB_QV: Grazie!

obenhaus · Post by **obenhaus** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:59 pm

The 24V automatic in Blu Genova which I imported from CH (alongside to my black 12V which may has to leave):

Post by **ALFAHEIDA** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:17 pm

This is (after the Recaro memory) the best leather interior you may want. Looks great Nils. How many km's on the clock?

obenhaus · Post by **obenhaus** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:26 pm

ALFAHEIDA wrote:This is (after the Recaro memory) the best leather interior you may want. Looks great Nils.

Maybe in general, but not this set in particular - it has alot of signs of use.

ALFAHEIDA wrote:How many km's on the clock?

About 160k now. With the car came the service check book alongside that shows the full service history

The car rides well, the suspension seems to be o.k. and the breaks do a good job. So it's to check if there are any engine matters and if the bodywork underneath is fine.

alfa east · Post by **alfa east** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 5:01 am

Lovely color in combo with those tan leather seats. On the braking; I don't know if it is specific to my car and the fact that it is not used daily, but I am a bit disappointed with the braking in the first few kms after not having used the car for a while. It can be so bad that just getting the car to stop the natural "creeping " of the auto gearbox (without pushing gas pedal) requires a hefty foot and longer braking distance than to be expected. When you are just backing out of the driveway or garage you may not notice it, bu then you drive for a while and you are up to a speed of 30-40 km and if you need to brake unexpectedly I scared myself stiff a couple of times and actually caused one small accident myself.

Fred164 · Post by **Fred164** » Tue Jul 05, 2011 7:22 pm

Wilkommen...

obenhaus · Post by **obenhaus** » Sun Sep 11, 2011 4:20 pm

My 164 Automatic is ready for public traffic:

Post by **ALFAHEIDA** » Sun Sep 11, 2011 8:02 pm

Good news Nils....where is the Lancia.....

obenhaus · Post by **obenhaus** » Sun Sep 11, 2011 8:15 pm

ALFAHEIDA wrote:....where is the Lancia.....

...can't follow you

Post by **ALFAHEIDA** » Sun Sep 11, 2011 9:26 pm

I thought this was your garage....

http://www.alfa164-forum.de/download/file.php?id=1073

alfa east · Post by **alfa east** » Mon Sep 12, 2011 12:39 am

Cool plate of course. The parking spots remind me of the one my parents had in a Maastricht apartment building; much too small and really narrow. You had to be so careful when opening the doors and be a contortion acrobat in order get out. It seems you have at least one spot at the edge with only your own Spider as your neighbour. That should protect against nicks and scratches.

obenhaus · Post by **obenhaus** » Mon Sep 12, 2011 9:38 am

ALFAHEIDA wrote:I thought this was your garage....

http://www.alfa164-forum.de/download/file.php?id=1073

No, that was a bit more east

My first thought was that you recognised the Chrysler 300 at the over-next parking which could be deemed as "Lancia Pre-Thema"

obenhaus · Post by **obenhaus** » Mon Sep 12, 2011 9:43 am

alfa east wrote:Cool plate of course...

Thanks. Was a lucky momentum. It's caused by the fact that the car was imported and first registered here. Thus a new car document has to be issued what is delegated to someone superior. He explained that such short numbers would be reservered for motorcycles in general but for an more than 15year old Alfa it would be O.K

obenhaus · Post by **obenhaus** » Sat Apr 14, 2012 11:16 am

My Automat got new seats

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