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164 Turbo Blindata (ex-Benetton)

Postby alfa east » Fri Jul 21, 2017 2:07 pm

For all our wannabe 164 Godfathers!
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Re: 164 Turbo Blindata (ex-Benetton)

Postby 164EVER » Sun Sep 03, 2017 8:42 pm

Very very interesting can you explain details ? :wink:
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Re: 164 Turbo Blindata (ex-Benetton)

Postby alfa east » Mon Sep 04, 2017 3:59 am

Unfortunately not. I would also be interested to know how much it weighs, how the performance (top speed, acceleration, braking) is effected and what kind of tyres are used. But unfortunately, I have not actually seen the car myself, nor know of any spec sheet.

I guess that this (Italian) Wikipedia-link is the company that did the "blindata"-conversion:
https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrozzeria_Pavesi
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Re: 164 Turbo Blindata (ex-Benetton)

Postby alfa east » Mon Sep 04, 2017 4:04 am

Rough "Google" translation:

[i]Milanese car body founded by Ernesto Pavesi in 1927. In the period between the two wars, Ernesto Pavesi (1901-1974), a young carpenter who specialized in carpets, opened practically in his home, his small business: a workshop of carriages. They knew from now on how these would soon be replaced by the advent of cars and, at the expense of great economic sacrifices, founded Via Pietro Calvi in ​​Milan, the same car body. Over the years, he specializes in the manufacture of commercial vans from standard vehicles such as the three-speed Fiat Balilla. The remarkable success of personalization of vehicles also extends to private vehicles. The first dashboards in the rows embellished the Lancia Astura and Lancia Artena, true masterpieces of the automotive industry, which with that touch of class, soon became very much sought after. The increase in orders brought Pavesi, who had in the meantime been joined by his elder son Gianpaolo, to hire several workers. With the advent of World War II, the work of aesthetic finishing and personalization dropped drastically and to survive the bombardment of those difficult years, Pavesi moved his workshop to Trecella, near Melzo (MI). The Pavesi adapted to the difficult period by dedicating themselves to the repairs of the Armed Forces, the installation of gaseous systems and some very primitive ballistic guards. At the end of the conflict, the Pavesi returned to Milan by opening a new office in Via Mezzofanti. Even the other two sons, Emilio and Luciano, became part of the new car body Pavesi. Luciano soon became the creator and inspiration of the new Milanese car body. In the 1950s Pavesi decided to relaunch a fashion that was taking shape in standard cars in England: the complete transformation of the interior of any car, inspired by the Roll-Royce and Jaguar interiors. The elaboration included the dashboard, walnut wheel, hand-sewn leather seats and panel, air conditioning and radio. The cost of this transformation was about 5 million Lire; astounding when you think the cost of a Mini did not reach Million Lire. Despite this high price Pavesi produced about 50 specimens of Mini so elaborate.

Due to the limited spaces that Mezzofanti's headquarters offered, the bodywork was transferred to Via De Andreis, in its historic location. Here were a couple of Alfa Romeo 1750 transformed into a giant (Alfa Romeo 1750 Giardinetta Veloce), thirty spiders from the Grifo Iso Rivolta coupe (one was bought by Mario Del monaco): many Ferrari Dino Coupè and Maserati Indy transformed in unlicensed "Targa". At that time the Pavesi bodywork occupied 38 people for most skilled workers. Despite the remarkable number of employees, the queue that was formed in front of the shutters a few hours before opening was the clear signal that many customers would not have access and would be kindly sent to leave. [1]

In the early 70's there was the triumph of the hard top on the Ferrari 365 Daytona spider (50 of them were destined for the American market) and the sunroof, like the one mounted on the Porsche plate, the Maserati Ghibli and Dino Ferrari. The first agreements with the Maserati led by Alejandro De Tomaso date back to that era, which became an industrial collaboration on DeTomaso brand cars. All the De Tomaso Longchamp cabriolets and the De Tomaso Panthera Targa-version were transformed by the Pavesi bodywork. One of these Longchamp Spyder was used in the film "The Bitter Tomorrow" (1980) with Ornella Muti and Adriano Celentano. In the late 1970s and early 80s, Italy was struck by the plague of terrorism and kidnapping for extortion. This led the Pavesi bodywork to specialize in the manufacture of armored cars. Among the many are the Maserati Quattroporte destined to then President of the Republic Sandro Pertini [2]. At the end of the 80's, the Pavesi bodywork produced special cars for important world personalities. The Range-Rover Cabriolet and the Ferrari 400 Convertible [3] [4] are realized for Libyan leader Gaddafi or Arab prince Feisal. In the 1990s, in the work of exclusive production and transformation of cars (such as the realization of a small series of Ferrari Testarossa cabriolet with electro-hydraulic headgear), a small production of vintage-looking commercial vehicles, "Old Pavesi" [5] made on the mechanics and chassis of modern Ford Transit. In the early 2000s, the three brothers Pavesi were joined by some of their children. Following the subsequent disappearance of the brothers Pavesi, the children sought new subjects and a management that could continue the tradition of the name and at the same time revive the goals. In 2008 Carrozzeria was sold by the Pavesi family to a rope of entrepreneurs who laid the foundations for a relaunch. Unfortunately this operation did not get the desired outcomes and Pavesi Carrozzeria definitively ceased its activity in the year 2013.
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Re: 164 Turbo Blindata (ex-Benetton)

Postby alfa east » Mon Sep 04, 2017 4:26 am

Some of Pavesi's creations:

The Alfa romeo 1750 Giardinetta Veloce:
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Innocenti Mini with Pavesi "tuning":
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I have seen also Mini Moke conversions.
De Iso Grifo cabrio:
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De Tomaso Pantera Targa:
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De Tomaso Longchamps convertible:
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De Tomaso Quattroporte Coupe (2-door) conversion:
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Also, Range Rover Cabrio and Ferrari 400 cabrio.

So, although the Wikipedia page suggests that they closed in 2013 their website is still up (with contact details!). Maybe someone who can speak/write Italian could send an email asking for more info on the 164 Blindata?
Link: http://www.pavesimilano.it/contatti.php
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