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164 Q4 air intake hose

Post by Ennio » Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:08 pm

Hi I am searching for a 164 Q4 (I think it is 94-95) air intake flex hose (part number 60594238).
Someone has or nows were I can find a NOS since it is NLA form Alfa?

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Re: 164 Q4 air intake hose

Post by 164 TD » Wed Oct 20, 2010 6:01 am

That hose is my biggest fear too; mine starts to get some cracks as well.Since it's no longer available from Alfa, I think we need to gather enough Q4 drivers and search for a rubber company who is able to duplicate a batch for a reasonable price.

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Re: 164 Q4 air intake hose

Post by ALFAHEIDA » Wed Oct 20, 2010 6:37 am

Is this part different from Qv12v/24v?
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Re: 164 Q4 air intake hose

Post by Alfan » Wed Oct 20, 2010 8:13 pm

ALFAHEIDA wrote:Is this part different from Qv12v/24v?
The Q4 has an Air Mass Meter (I think it's called) and the other 164's an Air Flow Meter, so not the same. I have also found that it's not available from Alfa and don't know where to get it.
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Re: 164 Q4 air intake hose

Post by ALFAHEIDA » Thu Oct 21, 2010 6:36 am

Ok, well if you Q4 owners want to organize some things.
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Re: 164 Q4 air intake hose

Post by Ladin164QV » Thu Oct 21, 2010 9:11 am

I tried to order this hose (mine has micro-cracks too) from local Fiat before 2 weeks, they told me "no problem", so I am curious...
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Re: 164 Q4 air intake hose

Post by Alfan » Sat Oct 23, 2010 6:32 pm

Ladin164QV wrote:I tried to order this hose (mine has micro-cracks too) from local Fiat before 2 weeks, they told me "no problem", so I am curious...
Ladin, from what I can see, you have a QV (FWD). That has an air flow meter, not an air mass meter as the Q4 (4WD), so hoses are different...
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Re: 164 Q4 air intake hose

Post by Ladin164QV » Wed Oct 27, 2010 10:15 am

Alfan wrote:Ladin, from what I can see, you have a QV (FWD). That has an air flow meter, not an air mass meter as the Q4 (4WD), so hoses are different...
Image Sorry, my mistake... But after 3 weeks, no answer... So on QV is the same problem... :(
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Re: 164 Q4 air intake hose

Post by 164 TD » Wed Oct 27, 2010 5:08 pm

Maybe, if we're able to gather enough people, we can request Alfa to remake a batch or ask them to give the adress of the vendor who made them for Alfa.
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Re: 164 Q4 air intake hose

Post by Ennio » Wed Nov 10, 2010 3:39 pm

Hi guys,

indeed it would be great if we could gather and get a batch of the part done; my friend will definately go for it. Meanwhile he managed to use some parts of the old hose with the flex-hose he found in a store after searching. The Q4´s flex-hose is 4 inches of diameter so he had to search a lot in finding an intake that had this diameter, he then cut the flex-hose, cut here and there, used some urethane compound to glue it and it works perfectly. Also it looks great :mrgreen:

This is just a solution until we can source the part we need...

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Re: 164 Q4 air intake hose

Post by fasani » Thu Jan 20, 2011 10:49 pm

Hello all,

Reading this topic made my brains became active aagain :shock: and i'm working on something to see what the options are for the Q4 / 24v QV intake hose.

I need some pictures from the Q4 and 24v QV hose (several angles and zoom).
Please send me some pics (hendrik AT blingblingkralen DOT nl) i need te mention that i can't prommise anything if iwill succeed.


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Re: 164 Q4 air intake hose

Post by 164 TD » Fri Jan 21, 2011 9:10 am

I recently got a second Q4 intakehose; cracked, but it has all the dimensions. I purchased it for the sole reason to ship it to someone who could make a handful of copies of it.
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Re: 164 Q4 air intake hose

Post by fasani » Fri Jan 21, 2011 1:10 pm

164 TD wrote:I recently got a second Q4 intakehose; cracked, but it has all the dimensions. I purchased it for the sole reason to ship it to someone who could make a handful of copies of it.
i would say .... send it to me????

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Re: 164 Q4 air intake hose

Post by 164 TD » Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:39 am

These guys might be our last form of resource; they happened to be in the netherlands.

They build hoses in any shape and form and colour.I happend to have an old Q4 inlethose with a crach that can serve as an example.Now all we need to find is 23 other guys who are interested!!

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Re: 164 Q4 air intake hose

Post by Alfan » Mon Feb 21, 2011 4:54 pm

164 TD wrote:These guys might be our last form of resource; they happened to be in the netherlands.

They build hoses in any shape and form and colour.I happend to have an old Q4 inlethose with a crach that can serve as an example.Now all we need to find is 23 other guys who are interested!!

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Looks interesting! I'm also in for one.
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1989 Lancia Thema 8.32 Verde Indy 270kkm
2001 Alfa Romeo Spider 3.0 24V Blue Lightning 55kkm
2011 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Multiair TCT Bianco Pastello 155kkm
2015 Alfa Romeo 4C Rosso Competizione 90kkm

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Re: 164 Q4 air intake hose

Post by Piotrek1987 » Tue Sep 13, 2011 12:04 pm

I'm interested in purchasing two

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Re: 164 Q4 air intake hose

Post by 164Q4 » Tue Sep 27, 2011 10:18 am

I'm in for one too!

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Re: 164 Q4 air intake hose

Post by ALFAHEIDA » Tue Sep 27, 2011 12:47 pm

At this moment I'm busy trying to remake them from silicone.
We just have to wait, because it's an experiment and most of all..... expensive for me.
I have different models in production, Qv 12v (S), Qv 24v (Q) and the Q4.
I'm interested in what color you wish your air intake hose. My favorite color is Black.

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Re: 164 Q4 air intake hose

Post by wilco » Tue Sep 27, 2011 1:53 pm

would be interested to have one spare... black is nice or blue :)

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Re: 164 Q4 air intake hose

Post by fasani » Tue Sep 27, 2011 3:18 pm

I would suggest to keep 1 color (black) if you want to make more for spare, black is easy to sell.
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Re: 164 Q4 air intake hose

Post by ALFAHEIDA » Tue Sep 27, 2011 4:16 pm

My thoughts... :wink:
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Re: 164 Q4 air intake hose

Post by Alfan » Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:53 pm

Black works for me! Looking forward to hear more about your results :)
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Re: 164 Q4 air intake hose

Post by Ennio » Mon Nov 14, 2011 9:56 pm

One in black...

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Re: 164 Q4 air intake hose

Post by ALFAHEIDA » Tue Nov 15, 2011 6:15 am

Airintake hose from Q4 gives problems to remake these in Silicon, we are busy solving this.
So keep you guys informed.

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Re: 164 Q4 air intake hose

Post by Piotrek1987 » Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:24 am

Do you have new information?

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