Post here your project, keep us all informed about the progress.
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by obenhaus » Sat Mar 28, 2015 12:14 pm
In summer of 2013 I bought this Super 24V in the Stuttgart region. I was looking for a car like this for a long time:
blue outside, inside tan leather, with sunroof and low milage.
The previous owner is an Italian who works for Daimler. He used the car only to go to South Italy in summer. I visited at a Subura garage where the owner was able to do service works at this car. Thus the milage of 100k km is evident from other documents but not the service book.
I picked the car on my way back from Zürich to Hamburg. After that I parked the car at my parents home before it was brought to the garage for rebuilding it in last autumn.

1993 Alfa Spider 2.0 IE nero 817
1993 Alfa 164 Super V6 24V blu genoa 477
1993 Alfa 164 Super V6 24V CAE blu genoa 477
2000 Alfa 916 S1 grigio Eclisse 677
2001 Alfa 156 V6 24V blu vela
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by obenhaus » Sat Mar 28, 2015 12:22 pm
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1993 Alfa Spider 2.0 IE nero 817
1993 Alfa 164 Super V6 24V blu genoa 477
1993 Alfa 164 Super V6 24V CAE blu genoa 477
2000 Alfa 916 S1 grigio Eclisse 677
2001 Alfa 156 V6 24V blu vela
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by obenhaus » Sat Mar 28, 2015 12:24 pm
1993 Alfa Spider 2.0 IE nero 817
1993 Alfa 164 Super V6 24V blu genoa 477
1993 Alfa 164 Super V6 24V CAE blu genoa 477
2000 Alfa 916 S1 grigio Eclisse 677
2001 Alfa 156 V6 24V blu vela
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alfa east
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by alfa east » Mon Mar 30, 2015 2:50 pm
Gorgeous! Do you still have your Automatic 24V?
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by 164EVER » Mon Mar 30, 2015 4:43 pm
Pretty nice car, fabulous engine, great job on it, enjoy drive and safe road to you.
164 3.0 V6 1988 330000KM
164 2.0 TS 1989 243000KM
164 SUPER 2.5 TD 1993 308000KM
156 1.8 TS 2001 165000KM.
EX : 33 SW 1.5, 1.3 ie, 1.5 ie, 33 1.7 QV 16V, GIULIETTA 116 1.6, ALFA 6 2.5 (X3), 146 boxer 1.6 , 164 SUPER 2.0 TS.
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by obenhaus » Tue Mar 31, 2015 8:41 pm
alfa east wrote:Gorgeous! Do you still have your Automatic 24V?
Well, I have stored it in a barn. Last autumn it it turned out that the engine has too low compression. So I decided not to do any investments. On the hand I am not willing to throw a 164 away.
1993 Alfa Spider 2.0 IE nero 817
1993 Alfa 164 Super V6 24V blu genoa 477
1993 Alfa 164 Super V6 24V CAE blu genoa 477
2000 Alfa 916 S1 grigio Eclisse 677
2001 Alfa 156 V6 24V blu vela
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ALFAHEIDA
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by ALFAHEIDA » Wed Apr 29, 2015 8:35 am
Great work Nils!
Good to see you still have passion for the 164.

Alfa 164 QV(S) 12V 3.5 Project '91 /Alfa 164 3.0 12V Automatic '89
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by obenhaus » Wed Feb 24, 2021 3:56 pm
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1993 Alfa Spider 2.0 IE nero 817
1993 Alfa 164 Super V6 24V blu genoa 477
1993 Alfa 164 Super V6 24V CAE blu genoa 477
2000 Alfa 916 S1 grigio Eclisse 677
2001 Alfa 156 V6 24V blu vela
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by obenhaus » Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:02 pm
1993 Alfa Spider 2.0 IE nero 817
1993 Alfa 164 Super V6 24V blu genoa 477
1993 Alfa 164 Super V6 24V CAE blu genoa 477
2000 Alfa 916 S1 grigio Eclisse 677
2001 Alfa 156 V6 24V blu vela
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by obenhaus » Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:19 pm
Unfortunately my 164 Automatic doesnot work properly either: it needs a new air cooler / radiator for the gearbox which has to be custom made
Thus I don't have any granturismo on hand, just right now when German Autobahn is nearly empty

- Just could repeatedly go from Hamburg-Zurich in 7 - 8 hours from door to door including fill ups with the 156 V6 (with winter tires on limited to 190 km/h). 2 hours less than before. Last time that I could manage the way in this time was round about 2013/14 with the 164 (with higher top speed).
1993 Alfa Spider 2.0 IE nero 817
1993 Alfa 164 Super V6 24V blu genoa 477
1993 Alfa 164 Super V6 24V CAE blu genoa 477
2000 Alfa 916 S1 grigio Eclisse 677
2001 Alfa 156 V6 24V blu vela
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Alfan
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by Alfan » Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:29 pm
The 164 does not look too bad, what is the mileage on it?
Good choice sending the shocks to Nagengast, I can only recommend them
At least you still have an Alfa Romeo V6 to drive

1994 Alfa Romeo 164 Q4 Proteo Rosso
1989 Lancia Thema 8.32 Verde Indy
2001 Alfa Romeo Spider 3.0 24V Blue Lightning
2011 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Multiair TCT Bianco Pastello
2015 Alfa Romeo 4C Rosso Competizione
1980 Alfa Romeo Alfetta Blindata Bianco
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by obenhaus » Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:04 pm
The milage is low, just 120k km.
Today my garagist called me and told me he just did a similar job at my Automatic. It had rust spots and the end of the rear wheel arches. But the sill shall be in excellent condition. Now the car be waxed underneath.
1993 Alfa Spider 2.0 IE nero 817
1993 Alfa 164 Super V6 24V blu genoa 477
1993 Alfa 164 Super V6 24V CAE blu genoa 477
2000 Alfa 916 S1 grigio Eclisse 677
2001 Alfa 156 V6 24V blu vela
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Engine
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by Engine » Tue Mar 09, 2021 10:49 am
Very nice work on your 164s. All those rust points are comnmon. Evry 164 has or will have rust there at some point. The target is to get to it before it is really bad.
3-cil: 2006 Citroen C1
4-cil: 1982 Suzuki SC100 Whizzkid
4-cil: 1997 Alfa Romeo 164 Super TS (fully restored)
4-cil: 2021 Citroen Jumper campervan (on order)
V-4: 1973 SAAB 96
V-8: 1988 Chevrolet Corvette (C4)
AC-asynch: Hyundai Ioniq EV (daily)
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by obenhaus » Fri Mar 12, 2021 1:05 pm
Both of my Alfa 164 together with a donor car in Blu Genoa in a row (and in between my Spider)

1993 Alfa Spider 2.0 IE nero 817
1993 Alfa 164 Super V6 24V blu genoa 477
1993 Alfa 164 Super V6 24V CAE blu genoa 477
2000 Alfa 916 S1 grigio Eclisse 677
2001 Alfa 156 V6 24V blu vela
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by obenhaus » Fri Mar 12, 2021 1:07 pm
1993 Alfa Spider 2.0 IE nero 817
1993 Alfa 164 Super V6 24V blu genoa 477
1993 Alfa 164 Super V6 24V CAE blu genoa 477
2000 Alfa 916 S1 grigio Eclisse 677
2001 Alfa 156 V6 24V blu vela
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by 164EVER » Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:22 pm
You see the end it will be a very nice car and enjoy it .
164 3.0 V6 1988 330000KM
164 2.0 TS 1989 243000KM
164 SUPER 2.5 TD 1993 308000KM
156 1.8 TS 2001 165000KM.
EX : 33 SW 1.5, 1.3 ie, 1.5 ie, 33 1.7 QV 16V, GIULIETTA 116 1.6, ALFA 6 2.5 (X3), 146 boxer 1.6 , 164 SUPER 2.0 TS.
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by Alfan » Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:39 pm
Hopefully you will be enjoying them both very soon

1994 Alfa Romeo 164 Q4 Proteo Rosso
1989 Lancia Thema 8.32 Verde Indy
2001 Alfa Romeo Spider 3.0 24V Blue Lightning
2011 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Multiair TCT Bianco Pastello
2015 Alfa Romeo 4C Rosso Competizione
1980 Alfa Romeo Alfetta Blindata Bianco
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by 164EVER » Mon Apr 19, 2021 6:23 pm
And you registery plate is ad hoc (lol)
164 3.0 V6 1988 330000KM
164 2.0 TS 1989 243000KM
164 SUPER 2.5 TD 1993 308000KM
156 1.8 TS 2001 165000KM.
EX : 33 SW 1.5, 1.3 ie, 1.5 ie, 33 1.7 QV 16V, GIULIETTA 116 1.6, ALFA 6 2.5 (X3), 146 boxer 1.6 , 164 SUPER 2.0 TS.