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Re: Alfa 164 Q4 3.5 'Savali' progress thread

Postby alfa east » Thu Oct 26, 2017 9:37 am

Did the Recaros go to a fellow 164 owner on our site here maybe?

I further agree with alfan (that you'd change your mind again and not sell it) as it could be that the only thing missing to make it perfect is the gearbox. See link:
GETRAG 6-speed gearbox (new)
OK, that's an expensive part but it will last the life of the car. Anyway, whatever you decide, I wish you all the best!
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Re: Alfa 164 Q4 3.5 'Savali' progress thread

Postby HaydnW92 » Thu Oct 26, 2017 10:51 am

Well I thought I was getting somewhere, because somebody offered me a gearbox for free (though I of course offered to pay or swap some parts for it) but they suddenly stopped replying to my messages. Not sure what happened.

If I had more time and money I would keep it and fix it again, but I have too many cars and my free time is shrinking too. I'd rather focus on my other cars for now.
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Re: Alfa 164 Q4 3.5 'Savali' progress thread

Postby HaydnW92 » Thu Oct 26, 2017 10:56 am

Alfa East - I sold them to my friend Daryl, who owns one of the other Q4s in the UK. He is called 'Alfamuppet' on here I think.

The gearbox isn't the only problem, in fact it's only half of my concern with the car. The paintwork is a bit tatty, I don't think the 4wd is working, it has the wrong instrument binnacle, there's an oil and PS fluid leak, it still has an engine idle problem when cold, etc... I feel like my efforts so far on this car have barely rewarded me, so I'm reticent to carry on spending time and money on it really.

I have no idea what it's worth though - probably not a lot.
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Re: Alfa 164 Q4 3.5 'Savali' progress thread

Postby HaydnW92 » Thu Oct 26, 2017 11:07 am

I hope you guys understand how I feel at the moment. I still like the car and don't really want to sell it, especially in its current condition, but the facts are that my circumstances are changing and I've got too many cars under my care. The Q4 was supposed to be my 'daily' car (not that I drive daily, but you know what I mean) however it's just given me quite a few headaches really. I didn't want to pull the engine out back in May, when the gearbox first broke, so now that it's broken again... No, just no!

according to my receipts I've spent around £5.8k on parts and upgrades since January 2015. It must be worth at least a couple of thousand in parts?

Also, don't forget the car has very little service history, so I can't prove what modifications were made to the car. This will affect its value quite a lot, I think.

At the end of the day, I've lost lots of time and money fixing this car this year, only for it to break again straight away. I could have had the Maserati running, and maybe even driving on the roads :(

I'll still own Alfas anyway. It looks like I might buy a 156 V6 this weekend, plus there's a 75 QV that needs some work, which has been passed down to me, which I am very fond of.
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Re: Alfa 164 Q4 3.5 'Savali' progress thread

Postby Alfan » Thu Oct 26, 2017 5:36 pm

I do understand your decision and some times you have to cut your loses... I just think it is a shame that you have learned some things on this specific model and won't be able to contribute to the forum with more details on it - unless you buy another one in the future ;)

But I hope that you find another enthusiastic buyer who will join this site - if not already present!

I have also decided not to stress and get the Q4 ready for winter driving this season, so I have leased a car for the next 5 months - then I can spend more time in the garage :mrgreen:
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Re: Alfa 164 Q4 3.5 'Savali' progress thread

Postby HaydnW92 » Sat Oct 28, 2017 5:31 pm

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Re: Alfa 164 Q4 3.5 'Savali' progress thread

Postby Alfan » Sat Nov 04, 2017 8:14 pm

Sold?
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Re: Alfa 164 Q4 3.5 'Savali' progress thread

Postby MikeCZ » Sun Nov 05, 2017 11:39 am

Only for 2k GPB? :shock: This is insane :cry:
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Re: Alfa 164 Q4 3.5 'Savali' progress thread

Postby HaydnW92 » Sun Nov 05, 2017 12:30 pm

I couldn't agree more. I'm really surprised it didn't go for more than that, even taking into account its issues. Oh well :/
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Re: Alfa 164 Q4 3.5 'Savali' progress thread

Postby Alfamuppet » Sun Nov 05, 2017 6:11 pm

Haydn - that's really disappointing for you. Who bought her, sombody we know?
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Re: Alfa 164 Q4 3.5 'Savali' progress thread

Postby Alfan » Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:19 pm

That is a bargain! Hopefully the new owner will get it sorted and enjoy driving it...
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Re: Alfa 164 Q4 3.5 'Savali' progress thread

Postby MikeCZ » Tue Nov 07, 2017 1:51 pm

That gives completely new meaning to sentence "Drive it like you stole it" :? :D :oops:
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Re: Alfa 164 Q4 3.5 'Savali' progress thread

Postby HaydnW92 » Fri Nov 10, 2017 1:50 pm

Well, I'm currently waiting to see when the winning bidder can collect the car. There's a few issues currently under discussion, include the method of payment, but we'll see what happens. I don't think the buyer is a member of this site, and thus I don't know if they'll continue this thread or begin a new one of their own. Time will tell I suppose.
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