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Re: Long time road going 164 Q4 1994 project

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 12:44 pm
by alfa east
I saw that too and it was a very enjoyable review! But disappointing that when he mentioned the Tipo 4 cars he omits the 164!

Re: Long time road going 164 Q4 1994 project

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:46 pm
by Alfan
Just watched it - missing the 164 was, well, a miss...

But a nice review and he was smiling - as am I while driving my 8.32 at the moment :D

Re: Long time road going 164 Q4 1994 project

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:49 pm
by Alfan
AlfaWhiz wrote:Great news :!: :)

Keep us posted about the progress on other items too, I'm interested to see if the springs you found will lower the car slightly. I actually think 1-2cm lower would suit it very well and would look into that myself.
I don't expect it to be lowered and that is not the intention either, as I find the underside low enough for regular driving, though it would probably enhance the look.

Anyway, not sure when they will be mounted, as water is getting in the engine oil, so at least a head gasket replacement has to be done - and probably some more stuff when doing that...

Re: Long time road going 164 Q4 1994 project

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:57 pm
by AlfaWhiz
I've been through the head gasket situation myself some time ago as you recall... I can only cheer you up by saying that access to a lot of other components will be much easier with the heads off, so good time to have a closer look at the steering rack, starter motor, gearbox linkage bushings (highly recommended), etc. Will be good as new afterwards though. :)

Re: Long time road going 164 Q4 1994 project

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 7:07 pm
by Alfan
I will have to look at a look of different things and change the timing belt at the same time, so quite some work ahead.

I did run the tester last weekend, in particular for the 4WD and made a video of testing the pressure, which it fails. I would like to know if others have gotten the same behaviour, so have a look at the video here, please:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/t7ftrl932n02 ... Bct9a?dl=0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The ABS light stays off, and I told another Q4 owner about the solution. He did the same thing and the light stopped coming on when driving, so I think we have confirmed this solution by now :D

Here is a photo from the last 'open garage' we had a couple of weeks ago - in good company :)
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Re: Long time road going 164 Q4 1994 project

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 7:37 pm
by Alfan
Not much has happened, but I still drive the Q4 around the building some times. Still runs and sounds fine!

Hopefully this fall/winter will give time to get started on some engine work...

At least it got a good wash to get rid of the dust and did so in good company 8)
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Q4 & 8.32

Re: Long time road going 164 Q4 1994 project

Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 5:15 am
by MikeCZ
Really nice duo :)

Re: Long time road going 164 Q4 1994 project

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 2:10 pm
by Alfan
So it is time to get started on fixing a lot of things on my Q4, but mainly water getting in to the oil. A lot of other stuff also needs to be done, but I took it for a spin around the garage, before starting disassembly.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/n2lmjikdsp9v ... cW5pa?dl=0

I have started taking the seats out, so the carpet can come out and be cleaned. Then I can also inspect how it looks underneath. I don't think it has ever been out. Small steps, leading to bigger ones later.... So to be continued :)

Re: Long time road going 164 Q4 1994 project

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 6:24 am
by finalfa
Keep this updated Alfan! You've got some work ahead of you, but it will definitely be worth it.

Re: Long time road going 164 Q4 1994 project

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:50 am
by Alfan
I have started dismantling the inside of my Q4. Next step will be the outside, that is taking down the entire front and rear part of the car. More to follow!
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Re: Long time road going 164 Q4 1994 project

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2020 6:41 pm
by Alfan
PIcked up a 1990 TS with 300.000km on the clock. The car drives quite well, but was bought because a new windscreen was available with it (needed for my Q4). It only has little rust and a damaged wind screen, but will most likely be a parts car, as I have enough cars to work on...

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Re: Long time road going 164 Q4 1994 project

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 6:56 pm
by Alfan
"Let the fun begin!"

It will be a garage Easter for me, so time to dig in with the Q4 and get it disassembled. Some updates will follow, when my arms and fingers are able to use the keyboard again :)
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Q4 disassembly

Re: Long time road going 164 Q4 1994 project

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 7:48 pm
by MikeCZ
Good luck and keep us posted! :)

Nice garage, btw :wink:

Re: Long time road going 164 Q4 1994 project

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 9:31 pm
by Alfan
Doesn't look that different in the photos, but engine is out, apart from one cable to the starter motor - I hope to get the rear taken off the car tomorrow...

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Re: Long time road going 164 Q4 1994 project

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 8:33 pm
by Alfan
So I spent a big part of Easter in my garage and managed to get the front and rear off the Q4 - my arms feel a bit longer now!

Getting it all back together will take a lot longer, but I hope to be done some time next year...


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Re: Long time road going 164 Q4 1994 project

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 8:40 pm
by Alfan
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Re: Long time road going 164 Q4 1994 project

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:11 pm
by 164EVER
Well long days working coming it seems. I like the red TS with 300000km. Had a look at the picts, and sure it has some rust.........

Re: Long time road going 164 Q4 1994 project

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2021 7:10 pm
by Alfan
Still going way too slow, but now it is easier to get under the Q4 - which is now a 16-wheeler offroader 😉

The TS was sold to another guy in the garage and have been put back on the road and done more than 10000km since then - happy to see it running again as it was too good to scrap!

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Re: Long time road going 164 Q4 1994 project

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 10:52 am
by Engine
Very nice work on the Q4. And indeed good news to hear that the TS is back on the road. They sure are rare cars now.

Re: Long time road going 164 Q4 1994 project

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2022 7:55 pm
by Alfan
So I have slowly started on the Q4 again - or rather I bought another Q4 engine, that I am taking apart, as it has some crankshaft issue (I don't no more about it), but it is complete.

Whether this engine will be rebuild (maybe 3.2 or more) and put in the car, I have to decide on. Here are some photos of this engine. I hope to get a lot further with my Q4 this year, so it can get back on the road with me behind the wheel - more to follow 😎🍀

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Re: Long time road going 164 Q4 1994 project

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 7:40 pm
by Alfan
I still need to disassemble the tops, but the rest is taken apart and the crankshaft is not looking so good, but that was expected. Next step will be to find 3.2 parts for this engine.

Re: Long time road going 164 Q4 1994 project

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2022 2:03 pm
by Mashoo
Glad the TS has been saved. And the Q4 will be stunning once finished, great pictures of the build. 👍

Re: Long time road going 164 Q4 1994 project

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2022 7:14 pm
by 164EVER
Lot of work to come but it gives pleasure when finished.
Thanks for the pictures.

Re: Long time road going 164 Q4 1994 project

Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 7:21 am
by MikeCZ
That crankshaft really does not look good. But good luck, if you will rebuild it to 3.2 it will be worth it :)

Re: Long time road going 164 Q4 1994 project

Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 7:42 am
by Raphael164Super24V
Glad to see that the 3.2 project is starting for you :) Good luck in the rebuild!!